I think that if we keep like calling it out and making these companies embarrassed to roll out half-ass products and to like have their platforms taken over, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Maris Marks, and this week my guest is Jason Kebler.

Jason is a co-host of the 404 Media Podcast.

And if you haven't been following his work at 404 Media recently, then I think you're going

to be fascinated by this conversation. Because Jason has really been digging into all of the

AI generated content that's been flooding Facebook since this generative AI boom. And he's found some pretty fascinating things.

In particular, he says that Facebook now is not the dead internet, because there are still

a lot of real people there, but it's more like a zombie internet where there's all of this

fake content.

There are a lot of bot accounts on there, but there's a lot of real people who are

engaging with this content, who are talking to other people about this fake content, who are

occasionally engaging with these bots. So it's difficult to say that it's completely fake,

right? Because actually, there's still a lot of real things happening here. And in some

cases, real accounts are being taken over by bots and then being used to comment on this

stuff as well. So it's a big kind of wild thing that's happening here. And so I wanted to talk to

Jason about that. But I also wanted to talk more deeply about what is happening with Facebook

right now? Because it's a platform that we haven't,

I feel like, been paying as much attention to lately. You know, there's a lot of attention

on it when it was accused of affecting the U.S. election and these sorts of questions. But more

recently, the spotlight has kind of been taken off of Facebook and put on other social media platforms.

And as that has happened, the moderation has declined, you know, this AI generated content has boomed.

But there's still a whole lot of people who still use this platform daily in order to talk to their friends, their family, to find out, you know, about the things that

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