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EXTENDED VERSION The Ancient Heresy That Helps Us Understand QAnon

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🗓️ 23 November 2020

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Gnosticism can help us understand the pseudo-intellectualism on the right.

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0:00.0

So two weeks after Trump lost the election, he and his followers still claim victory.

0:07.1

President Trump is doubling down on his refusal to concede.

0:10.0

Writing in all caps last night, the president tweeted that he won the election.

0:18.6

Jeff Charlotte, who has been covering the election for Vanity Fair, credits two Christian-adjacent ideas for these claims.

0:26.7

The first is the so-called prosperity gospel, the notion that, among other things, positive thinking can manifest positive consequences,

0:36.1

even electoral victory in the face of electoral loss.

0:40.3

You can think your way to failure and misery, but you can also think your way to success and happiness.

0:47.8

The world in which you live is not primarily determined by outward conditions and circumstances,

0:53.8

but by the thoughts that habitually occupy

0:57.3

your mind. That's Trump's childhood pastor Norman Vincent Peel, whose runaway bestseller

1:03.1

the power of positive thinking is thought to be Trump's personal gospel. But the problem with

1:09.1

prosperity thinking, like day-and and date rapture prophecies,

1:13.6

is that when the bets don't pay off, it's egg on a lot of faces.

1:17.6

For I hear the sound of victory. I hear the sound of victory.

1:21.6

I hear the sound of victory.

1:23.6

Trump's spiritual advisor, Pastor Paula White, the day after the election.

1:28.8

As Prosperity Gospel loses its edge for Trump, another strain of fringe Christianity,

1:34.9

this time dating back nearly two millennia, is flourishing.

1:39.5

Charlotte, a professor of English at Dartmouth College, says it has animated QAnon conspiracies and Trump's base.

1:47.0

It's called Gnosticism.

1:49.4

Jeff, welcome back to the show.

1:51.1

Hi, Bob. Good to be with you.

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