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Epidemics Show Societies Who They Really Are

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🗓️ 25 November 2020

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

From the bubonic plague to Ebola to COVID-19: learning about ourselves through the epidemics we've faced.

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0:00.0

Nearly a year into the coronavirus is jaunt through humanity. The cyclical nature of this

0:08.3

pandemic, particularly in the United States, is clear. We bend the curve, loosen our grips,

0:14.2

the curve springs back, all because we struggle to learn lessons from earlier waves and even from earlier plagues.

0:22.4

And there is much to glean from that history about old maladies and about the values,

0:27.8

temperament, infrastructures, and moral structures of the societies they attack.

0:33.9

Frank Snowden is a professor emeritus of the history of medicine and author of epidemics and society from the black death to the present.

0:43.6

When we spoke to him in March, he told us that an epidemic, quote, holds a mirror to the civilization.

0:50.6

The bubonic plague in the 14th century shows what are our relationships to our fellow human beings.

0:59.6

You read in Bocacho about the terrible flight of people and terror from the plague.

1:06.5

Husband, left wife, and vice versa.

1:09.2

Parents fled their children.

1:13.6

One can see the scapegoating, the search for a demonic influence. This is not something that we ourselves did, of course.

1:20.6

It's always some other group or person that we want to blame. That seems to me one of the constants. We can see it in homophobia,

1:31.4

in the American epidemic of HIV-AIDS today, and the assault on Asian people. It's something

1:40.0

that seems, alas, to be with us since the very beginning, the hunt for witches, pogroms

1:47.5

against ewes, xenophobia unleashed societies coming to a halt.

1:53.7

I want to move on to a more modern infection that certainly changed the face of the Western world,

2:00.5

bedeviling Napoleon.

2:02.6

Let's start with his invasion of Russia in 1812, where his superior armies were overrun,

2:10.0

not by the Tsar's troops, so much as what?

2:14.5

Oh, dysentery and typhus.

2:17.1

His military tactics were predicated on lightning strikes and

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