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Democracy Now.org, The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman.

With this web exclusive, part two of our conversation with Mark Graham, director of the Wayback Machine.

This month, President Trump fired the head of the National Archives, the agency that

alerted the Justice Department of his alleged mishandling of classified documents after his first

term, bringing them to Mar-a-Lago, which led to the criminal case against him. The person Trump fired, Colleen

Shogun, was not director at the time of the case. This comes as thousands of government websites

with information on diversity initiatives, hate crimes, vaccines, environmental policies,

veterans' care, and major scientific research are being taken down.

Gone, according to the New York Times, are, quote, more than 180 pages from the Department of Justice,

including all state-level hate crime data and seven pages discussing anti-LGBQ hate crimes, and quote, eight pages from the Department of Interior,

including several detailing environmental policy initiatives.

Other removed pages include information on vaccines, environmental policies, veterans care, scientific research, and more.

For more on the major effort to preserve all of this information, called the End of Term

Archive for federal websites, we continue in San Francisco with Mark Graham, director of the

Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive, a nonprofit library of millions of

free text, movies, software, music, and websites. They also host all the episodes of Democracy Now.

Welcome back to Democracy Now. Thank you so much for staying with us, Mark. In this part of the

conversation, if you could go back, I mean, your bio alone

is truly amazing, and it really sets the context for the Internet Archive, Internet.org,

and the Wayback Machine. Talk about IGC and everything.

Oh, my gosh, you're really going back here now, tight to the 80s.

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