Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

And today, no different at all.

As we welcome back, the man, Gavin Fish, who's always fishing for stories.

Yeah, glad to be here.

Yeah, happy for you to be here.

We are waiting the COE, hopefully, is going to load in some things that we're going to talk about.

Just so you know, the lay the land today, we're doing an hour with Gavin and then Scott Duffy and Dr. Detective Troy Looney are going to join us on another fascinating case.

That's actually equally, not equally, but very similar to this case, Alan Greenberg, which is what we're about to talk about.

And that involves an AI whistleblower.

His name is Suchier Bology, found dead under very suspicious circumstances.

And that story includes characters like Elon Musk, who's calling out OpenAI and Tucker Carlson.

That thing is sure to pick up some steam.

But I got to tell you, first of all, if you don't know this story at all in two seconds,

it goes back to 2011.

Ellen Greenberg was a 27-year-old elementary school teacher, and it is a Nor-Easter that's rolling in on January 26th.

She stops to get gasoline for her car.

She's in the process of making a fruit salad.

And lo and behold, at some point after that, her fiance, who is allegedly at the gym gym comes up to find her no longer alive.

He makes a couple of phone calls to some people in his family, namely his very powerful

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