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What draws us to places off the beaten path, seldom seen or only dreamed about?

I think we're all born explorers in the sense that as soon as you learn how to walk, you kind of walk out of the house you're living and you start to wonder what's between you and the horizon.

And as soon as you get to horizon, you start wondering what's beyond the horizon. That's how we were born. Unfortunately, when you get to the horizon, you start wondering what's beyond the horizon.

That's where we were born.

Unfortunately, when you get a year and a half and two years old and five years old, you get corrupted by kindergarten, by your parents, by your friends,

eventually by the school system, by the government.

You're never stopping an explorer, but gradually it's diluted that spirit.

And I also think we're kind of all born philosophers too, like, you know, thinking about thinking,

thinking about big questions.

That's something you do when you're two or three or four years old.

Then you gradually stop doing that too.

It's a better question like a friend of mine, the philosopher Arn Ness, was asked, of four years old, then you gradually stop doing that too.

It's a better question like a friend of mine, the philosopher Arne Ness, was asked,

why do you climb?

And he replied, why did you stop?

My name is Erling Kage.

I'm from Norway.

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