Take a

quick moment to think about your surroundings.

Now I want you to imagine what if you were a cat or a bat?

How would you experience the space you're in differently?

It's about trying to put yourself inside the perspectives of creatures that are very different to you and think about what their lives are like.

You made it through January.

It's Thursday, February 1st, and yes, it's Science Friday.

I'm Scifry producer Charles Burgquist.

This episode, Science Writer at Yang joins guest host Ariel Dum Ross to take us on a tour of animal senses and what thinking about them can teach us about our world.

He's the author of An Immense World, now out in paperback.

Ed, welcome to Science Friday.

Hi, thanks so much for having me.

Thank you for being here. So in each chapter of an immense world you focus on a certain sensory system like sight, smell, pain. You've gotten a lot of feedback I would imagine on your books since it was published. Is there a particular chapter that has

resonated with readers and maybe changed how they understand non-human animals?

Ooh.

So I think that the very first chapter on Smell

always particularly strong support of people

and you know it was intended that way, right right we wanted to come out of the gate strong and I think

smell is very poignant for a few reasons firstly you know it starts with dogs and for people who have dogs like the two of us it really

changes the way you think about this creature that you spend most of your time with. And we really wanted that.

By we, I mean myself, my editor Hillary,

we really wanted to take something that was very familiar

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