Hello, listeners. Welcome to Know Your Enemy. This is Sam Madler Bell. I'm here to share something

with you that is, as Matt often says, a little different. Actually, it's a little bit creepy.

What follows is a clip from a paywalled episode of the show recorded in August 2022. In the clip,

Matt and I have been discussing a profile I wrote of Arizona Senate hopeful and Peter Thiel protege Blake Masters,

and we find ourselves imagining a near future in which Magin nationalism and Silicon Valley Libertarianism

are melded together into a sinister anti-democratic program.

Sound familiar?

A listener flagged this for us, noting that the description, which we call exit from within,

sounds remarkably similar to what we are now experiencing with Trump, Musk,

Doge, and the tech right.

We had totally forgotten about this and thought the rest of you might like to hear it.

We'll be back to our regular programming with the Elon Musk

mega episode to which this clip is quite relevant next week. And if you like this and you want to hear

more suspiciously predictive analyses of where the right is headed, consider subscribing at

patreon.com slash know your enemy. More next week. Enjoy. Listeners will, especially those familiar with our deep archives, way back when he did that episode on Albert Hirschman's The Rhetoricom's The Rhetoricom, but he's probably more famous in social sciences, you know, whether

economics or political science or those fields for exit voice and loyalty, another book of his,

which you deploy, I think, very well in this piece. Yeah, I'm glad that you've mentioned that.

There's so many parts of this that are like the product of like our

conversations and know your enemy conversations. And I'm sure the listeners can find all the

Easter eggs that are like references to things we've talked about before. Hopefully that's fun

and not just duplicative. But the exit voice and loyalty thing is that it's actually just,

I didn't really realize this until I started looking into the sort of conservative milieu of Silicon Valley, the sorts of people that Peter Thiel and Masters,

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