Welcome to the waves, Slate's Podcast about Gender, Feminism, and How to be a

Jock without overdoing it. Every episode you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we cannot get off of our minds.

And today you've got me, Shannon Paulus, a senior editor at Slate.

And me, Eleanor Cummins, a freelance science journalist

and regular Slate Contributor.

So I recently launched a column at Slate called Good Fit.

And it's all about the idea that there's so so much information about how to work out and how to not work out and the exercises that will help you burn fat and lose calories but not make your muscles too big and you know even

if you get away from the really diet quilchery pieces, a lot of workout advice comes down to like how to work out to live longer,

how to work out to have a better memory, how to work out so your cancer risk goes down.

And with good fit, we just want to cut through

a lot of the noise and say, like, okay, we're human beings, we know we're supposed to move, we're animals, how do we

find a movement routine or a non-routine way to move that exists in this like modern maw of like advice and science and technology

but just feels good. So one of the first entries is when I wrote called the

case for running slowly and I'm a lifelong runner and recently I've been on a

little mission to fixate less on my pace, which can be really hard to do in a world of like sophisticated tracking technologies.

Yeah, and I was so grateful when you reached out to me to contribute as well.

I recently did a piece about the cost of yoga, which has recently really transformed

my life in the last six or seven months especially, and also recently really

months especially and also emptied out my bank account.

And so we wanted to get to the bottom of why yoga is so expensive.

And honestly, the answers really surprised me.

So we're going to talk about Eleanor's yoga piece in our second segment and next

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