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Mortification of Spin

Excommunication: Why? How?

Mortification of Spin

Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals

Religion & Spirituality

4.4 • 879 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2015

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Carl & Todd have really done it now. The Puppetmaster is about to pull the plug and poor Aimee appears to have gotten roped in, too. They'll undergo some serious trial and may face a mortifying …excommunication?! It could get ugly. So what do we think or even know about excommunication? It's a hard decision for a church to make and hard for any layperson to watch, let alone undergo. Yet the Bible spins it as vital, healthy, and positive. So what do you tell the congregation about discipline cases? How much is too much information? This episode is all about the how, why, and what of excommunication. As for our hosts, no need to worry. Aimee, despite being thrown under the bus, takes the brunt of the boys' malarky and coerces the Puppetmaster to mercy. The show will go on!The Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals would like to offer a free MP3 download! Head to ReformedResources.org to download a free copy of Mark Dever's message from the 2003 Philadelphia Conference on Reformed Theology entitled, "Church Discipline vs. Evangelism?"

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0:00.0

Welcome to Mortification of Spin, a casual conversation about things that count, with Carl Truman, Todd Pruitt, and Amy Bird.

0:25.5

Mortification of Spin is a weekly podcast from the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals.

0:30.9

What should church members think and feel about the practice of church discipline?

0:35.8

It's an unpopular topic, but Carl, Amy, and Todd don't shy away from asking some tough questions

0:41.3

and giving some keen insight on the matter.

0:44.2

Keep listening after the conversation to find out how to download a free MP3 from the Alliance.

1:02.8

Okay. Okay, so this is a very sobering podcast for the three of us today.

1:06.9

We happen to be sitting outside of a puppet master's office.

1:08.1

We're a little nervous.

1:13.1

We've gotten in a little bit of trouble here, and it's kind of like being sent to the principal's office. Todd, once again, said the word sexy on air, and

1:18.2

here we are not knowing what our punishment's going to be. But that's led to an interesting

1:23.8

conversation that we thought would be a pretty good topic, and that is within the

1:28.3

realms of church discipline, the importance of church discipline and the church, the lovingness

1:35.2

of it. But then the really difficult parts of when it actually comes to excommunication,

1:41.4

and then also the wonderful beauty of restoration when the purpose of excommunication and then also the wonderful beauty of restoration when when the purpose of

1:46.8

excommunication is fulfilled.

1:49.0

So I'm talking here with two pastors who are under a little bit of trouble of their own

1:54.2

while we're sitting here.

1:55.3

But what do we have to say about this, guys?

1:57.7

Well, you know, Carl and I have been kicked out of all kinds of associations, so we do know the feeling. But, you know, it's interesting. Hopefully, if you're a

2:06.3

Presbyterian, a confessional Presbyterian, or a Reform Baptist, you actually do have a

2:11.1

category for understanding church discipline. There's a lot of other evangelicals, though,

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