Today on the Rene Effect podcast, I have the privilege of sitting down with the new NCAA champion Carter, and he's someone I've known since senior of high school. We were the same class, and I got to see him at all of the same high school national meets when he was middle of the pack, and now he's winning races at the NCAA level. And we talk about how he actually got to that point, the simulation workout that prepared him for the chaos of the final. The mindset shift that happened years before he had any titles to show for it and what it actually looks like to believe in yourself before anyone else does. Carter Cutting right now on the Running Effect podcast, enjoy it. Subscribe so you don't miss more conversations like this one in the future. We're about to have on his coach, the man behind his success, Coach Ryan Waite, on the podcast very soon. So subscribe to see that episode, amongst others, in your inbox very shortly. And make sure you are following the podcast. Give us a five-star review. Takes next to no time. And make sure you share the podcast with a friend. That is the easiest way in which we can grow. Other assets include our newsletter comes out every week, once a week, every Thursday,

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notes. Enjoy this conversation with the legend newly minted NCAA indoor champion, Mr. Carter

Cutting. Carter Cutting, NCAA champion, how does winning NCAAs change your life?

Oh, yeah, it's crazy.

I mean, I always felt like I could compete on that level, but I hadn't quite proven it yet.

And so, I mean, I guess the title comes with some cool benefits and now I kind of get my name recognized

and some hype, which is awesome.

But, you know, I think internally it doesn't change a whole lot.

I still believe like I can compete at the highest level.

And so now I kind of just get a little bit of recognition for it, I guess.

I'm sure growing up competing high school track and field, middle school, depending on when you

started, we'll get into that in this conversation at some point today. You had dreams of going pro.

And it's kind of the little known, big known secret that if you went to into the AA title,

it's kind of a given at that point, barring your career just completely taking

a turn.

Is that crazy to see the transformation of what one race can do for you?

Yeah.

I mean, it's pretty crazy.

It kind of, it feels like in high school, I mean, I was good in high school but i it wasn't until i won uh arcadia i

won the 800 it went from like not talking to any college coaches to like 20 in like 24 hours

and so in a sense it kind of you've been through this before yeah like it feels like that, it was funny because at Arcadia, the announcer didn't even know my name. Like, when I crossed the line, it was like a photo fish and they're like, uh, I don't know. And like they had to go back and look. And it was kind of the same way this year. It was like, you know, I kind of came in, like I said in a couple of like interviews. No was really picking me, and I don't even think the ESPN announcers were really, like, in the race, they were just like, yeah, Carter cutting's up there, but it was kind of just, like, expected that, like, Gary or George or Trent or someone like that was going to win, and so kind of coming in as an underdog, and really like it just yeah i mean like like you said

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