And for more now, we're joined by Mary McCord.

She's a former acting assistant attorney general for national security and was a longtime prosecutor.

She's now executive director of the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown Law.

Thank you so much for being here.

My pleasure.

So the president publicly calling on Attorney General Pam Bondi to take more aggressive action in prosecuting his political

opponents.

What does that signal about the extraordinary pressures on the DOJ right now and how should

we understand the moment that we're in?

Yeah.

So, you know, I actually testified on the second day of Pam Bondi's confirmation hearings

to make three points.

I didn't know her personally, but the points

where your oath is to the Constitution and not to a person, and that means your decision should

be made based on the facts and the law and not based on what Donald Trump is telling you or wants

you to do, that you should recuse yourself if there's ever a conflict, and that there needs to be

independence between the Department of Justice and the White a conflict and that there needs to be independence between

the Department of Justice and the White House. And that's been something that every single

president and attorney general have believed in since Watergate. There have been policies

through every single president, including under Mr. Trump the first time around, that says

the White House is not going to give directions about

criminal and civil enforcement actions to the Attorney General and not going to reach out and

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