It is the World Cup of Global Diplomacy at the United Nations in New York.

Hundreds of dignitaries are gathered this week for the UN General Assembly.

Tomorrow's first speech to begin the proceedings will come from Brazil's president,

Luis Inacio Lula de Silva, known to everyone simply as Lula.

The fate of his predecessor, Jaira Bolsonaro, who attempted a coup against Lula two years ago,

has become an explosive issue in U.S.-Brazilian relations.

President Trump levied a 50 percent tariff on many Brazilian goods as a penalty for the prosecution of Bolsonaro.

He was convicted earlier this month and sentenced to 27 years in prison.

Amman Abbas sat down with Brazil's president this morning in New York.

President Lula, welcome back to the News Hour. Thank you for joining us.

It's a great pleasure to be here to talk with you again.

I'd love to start with the U.S. tariffs on your country right now, which at 50 percent are among the highest of any

level on any country. You've called them misguided and illogical. How much do you believe

that President Trump's anger with the trial and conviction of the former President Jail

Bolsonaro, how much did that inform the tariff level on your country?

Well, first of all, Amna, it's unbelievable that President Trump would have this kind of

behavior with Brazil due to the judgment of a former president that tried to attempt

a coup d'etat against a democratic rule of law.

That networked and plotted my death and the assassination of myself,

the vice president, and the chief justice of the Supreme Court. So the explanation of a

tariff of 50% due to the trial of a former president, this is no explanation for the world's

public opinion.

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