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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

'Evil' Sister Kills 'Good' Sister, Puts Body In Hole in Backyard: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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True Crime

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

This is a tale of two sisters, Karen and Debra.

Karen is loving, responsible, and well-liked by all who know her. She lived with and cared for her parents until they lost their battles with Alzheimer's and cancer. Karen also took care of her finances and was financially well-off for retirement.

Debra was gone for decades, living several states away in Louisiana. She never held a steady job and never had any money.

When their parents died, Debra moved back to Florida, with no money and no place to stay, and Karen let her sister move into her home.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack dig into the story of how the evil sister murdered the good sister with a bullet to the chest, wrapped her body in a trash bag, and buried her in a hole in the backyard.

Transcribe Highlights

00:00.15 Introduction 

02:10.97 Victim loves working in her yard

05:06.55 Two sisters, Karen and Debra

08:25.53 Debra comes back after parents die

12:14.34 Perp keeping victim close after death

16:55.11 Seeing a hole in the yard

20:57.88 Odor of decomposing body

25:33.91 Bad smell doesn't mean something is there

29:48.57 Very careful digging to not miss anything

35:07.70 Everything goes to the lab

40:27.15 Karen has one GSW to the chest

44:43.54 Debra claims she is "blameless"

45:28.45 Conclusion

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.7

The best gardener that I have ever known, hands down, is my mama.

0:18.7

She can make things grow where other people, other people would pale. It's

0:23.9

amazing what she can do in a garden and her gardens are lovely. Now don't get me

0:29.3

wrong. I'm not saying you know when you go into her backyard it looks like Versailles

0:33.7

or anything, all right? But it's amazing what she can do just with a clipping, for instance.

0:40.0

I gave her, I don't know, I guess as a gift, I gave her this like specialized firm many years ago.

0:46.6

And just out of the clippings that she saved from this thing, she has got baskets to this day that she gives away of these things.

0:57.0

And you could say that about a lot of her, let's just say, flora.

1:05.0

But today we're going to talk about another beautiful garden.

1:10.0

A garden that was tended to with loving care by a lady who spent, it would seem, most of her time in it.

1:22.2

And, of course, it's in Florida.

1:25.4

So kind of year round.

1:28.0

Her name was Karen.

1:30.1

Karen spent a lot of time tending to her garden, but what people didn't realize is that Karen would wind up buried in it as well.

1:45.0

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is body bags.

1:51.5

Dave, I don't know that I've ever asked you this question.

1:53.8

Do you have a green thumb?

1:56.1

Oh, you know, Joe, asking me a question like that,

2:03.2

you ought to know better.

2:05.1

I'm not the gardener.

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