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The Interview

Evgeny Popov: Are cracks appearing at the Kremlin?

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to Russian MP and pro-Kremlin TV host Evgeny Popov. The Ukraine invasion is beset with problems and Putin faces war crimes charges. Are cracks appearing?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today has become one of Russia's

0:06.7

most prominent public defenders of Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine. Yvgeny Popov represents Putin's

0:14.4

United Russia Party in the State Duma or Parliament, but he has an arguably more powerful platform as host of a talk show, 60 minutes,

0:24.7

on the state-owned Rossia 1 TV channel, where he appears alongside his wife,

0:29.6

who's also a Kremlin ultra-loyalist.

0:32.3

This past year has patently not gone to the Putin plan.

0:37.4

The war has cost Russia dear in terms of men and

0:40.9

resources. Ukraine's resistance has been staunch and backed by an expanding arsenal of Western

0:46.3

weapons. Now, this spring promises to be pivotal in terms of renewed offensives in the east and

0:52.1

south of Ukraine. The Russians retreated from swathes of

0:55.9

occupied territory in the second half of last year, and there is no guarantee the next phase of the

1:01.5

war will go the Kremlin's way. Meanwhile, Russia continues to face wider fallout, a complete

1:09.0

diplomatic and economic rupture with the West, and now

1:13.1

international opprobrium that comes with the International Criminal Court filing war crimes

1:19.4

charges against Mr Putin. This week's visit to Moscow by China's President Xi Jinping points

1:26.1

up Moscow's growing reliance on the alliance with Beijing.

1:30.7

So are cracks appearing in Moscow which no amount of propaganda can cover up?

1:37.2

Well, the Evgeny Popov joins me now from Moscow.

1:40.5

Welcome to Hard Talk.

1:42.3

Thank you very much.

1:43.1

Your president, Vladimir Putin, is a wanted man.

1:49.0

The international criminal court has filed war crimes charges against him.

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