Everything You Wanted to Know About Executive Privilege But Were Afraid to Ask
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 20 October 2021
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Jonathan David Shaub is an assistant professor of law at the University of Kentucky. He is a former OLC attorney and the author of a series of recent Lawfare posts on executive privilege, witnesses, documents and the Jan. 6 committee. He sat down with Benjamin Wittes to talk about Steve Bannon, the former president's suit against the National Archives, all of the privilege claims that are floating around, the misinformation about them that's proliferating on Twitter, and how the Justice Department will think about actually handling the cases that are now presenting themselves to it.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.2 | That, you know, one conversation or conversations shouldn't hinder the committee's investigation |
| 0:41.4 | into what's really important, which is the attack on the Capitol. |
| 0:45.7 | So the committee could write the subpoena in a way that says, we are demanding testimony |
| 0:51.5 | and documents relating to whatever it's asking banning about, but with the president's |
| 0:58.5 | conversation specifically, it can say we are demanding testimony and documents about |
| 1:03.5 | your conversations and interactions with the president that relates solely to his political |
| 1:10.2 | and personal capacity and that do not relate to his official duties. |
| 1:14.0 | And if it did that, then there is by definition no problem of executive privilege. |
| 1:21.0 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast October 20, 2021. |
| 1:28.0 | Jonathan David Shobb is an assistant professor of law at the University of Kentucky. |
| 1:34.0 | He is a former OLC attorney and the author of a series of recent LawFair posts on executive |
| 1:43.0 | privilege, witnesses, documents and the one-sixth committee. |
| 1:50.0 | He joined me in the virtual jungle studio to talk about Steve Bannon, to talk about the |
| 1:56.2 | former president's suit against the National Archive, to talk about all the privilege |
| 2:01.9 | claims that are floating around the misinformation about them that's proliferating on Twitter |
| 2:09.8 | and how the Justice Department will think about actually handling the cases that are now |
| 2:15.8 | presenting themselves to it. |
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