Everything you need to know about protein. Plus, building muscle, losing fat and eating for longevity.
The Emma Guns Show
Emma Gunavardhana
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 14 July 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
I had a huge response on Instagram when I shared the best information I’ve ever heard when it comes to why protein is such an important macro nutrient. For that reason, I thought I’d share it with you again in case you missed it first time around.
Right now, you can’t move for protein printed across most food packaging. Even chocolate bars have got in on the action, producing ‘high protein’ varieties of their sweet snacks to try to sell them as a key component of a healthy, balanced diet. How can this be junk food when it contains protein?
What’s the truth?
In 2021 I interviewed Dr Gabrielle Lyon, a double-board certified family physician trained in geriatric nutritional sciences who focuses on skeletal muscle to support longevity.
It was her work with geriatric patients that highlighted the importance of maintaining lean muscle in order to live well into older age and to avoid a plethora of health issues.
The fact this conversations pre-dates the obsession with protein adds, I think, real value to Gabrielle’s expertise because it was long before every ‘health expert’ was talking about protein on podcasts.
This conversation actually fundamentally changed how I eat and, since we spoke, I’ve been focusing on a high protein diet for all the reasons she describes during this conversation - not least to get lean while building muscle.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hi and welcome. I am your host, Emiggen-Awardner, and in my nearly 20-year career |
| 0:10.6 | as a beauty and health writer, I have interviewed a lot of people. Supermodels, entrepreneurs, |
| 0:15.6 | authors, celebrities and doctors, and many of these conversations had a real impact on me, |
| 0:20.1 | and I'd come away feeling inspired, |
| 0:22.4 | excited, informed and really empowered. And at the back of my mind, I'd always think, |
| 0:27.1 | I wish I could just publish the tape so people could really feel that conversation. Well, on this |
| 0:32.0 | podcast, you get to feel the conversation. I talk with experts, guests and a few friends |
| 0:36.6 | who I hope will inspire, |
| 0:37.9 | inform and empower you and maybe also challenge you, whether you're looking for self-help, |
| 0:42.7 | self-improvement, beauty advice, health insights, business know-how, or just some good old-fashioned |
| 0:47.5 | life advice and a bit of a laugh. It's all here. Welcome to the show. My guest in this episode of the podcast is Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, a |
| 0:57.3 | fellowship trained physician and a private doctor to the innovators and game changes. Now I came across |
| 1:03.6 | Gabrielle's Instagram feed because people I follow kept sharing her posts and that prompted me to follow |
| 1:09.5 | her and then after a while I thought |
| 1:11.4 | this is someone I need to get on the podcast I think this is the kind of expert that my most excellent listeners might like to hear from |
| 1:18.1 | and I wanted to dig into her expertise because she does extensive research is up to date on all the clinical trials |
| 1:24.2 | and has so much evidence to back up every single thing that she says. |
| 1:28.4 | And we love that on this podcast, don't we listeners? |
| 1:31.0 | And the topic she's spoken about or the thing that I've engaged with her the most about, |
| 1:35.2 | and I really wanted to share with you because it's something that really piqued my interest, |
| 1:39.1 | is when she talks about the way we're focusing on the wrong thing when it comes to health. |
| 1:43.6 | As she says, there's a |
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