So I personally will have my patients start with basic movement like day one postpartum.

And this always might free people out, but that's why call it movement. It's not like workout.

You're working on breathing. Maybe you are stretching your upper back because you,

if you're trying to breastfeed or bottle feed or whatever, you're all crunched forward, right?

So you're up and back starting to hurt. So I have people start doing movement in the bed,

week one postpartum. But this is just, you know, more of like gentle stretching and just like

relearning, okay, how do I breathe? Like, how do I find my core again? Because you'll notice,

like it feels so weird. It's like jello in there. Like your organs don't feel supported.

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Hey, Dr. Mae, welcome to Shee. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited.

Yes, so excited to have you here. Okay, so this is a topic I have been personally learning about

quite a bit. We're going to talk about pelvic floor health and things like that. But before we

dig into some of the nitty-gritty, can you first just share a little bit of your background in what

you do? Yes, so I am a physical therapist, but I specialize in treatment of the pelvic floor. So

in physical therapy school, we actually don't really learn much about the pelvic floor shocking,

right? And you kind of have to do your own treatment and education on your own through accrediting

academies. So I've done specialization through a separate academy and after completing physical

therapy school. So yeah, I've been doing this for about almost five years now. And I've kind of

been a fitness girl my whole life, though. Yeah, well, that's really interesting that you don't

learn about that in physical therapy school, but it kind of makes sense. And I feel like, I don't

know if this is true across the board, but I feel like most people don't really think about pelvic

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