Here's a catchy title.

We're hurtling toward global suicide.

Scary sounding stuff from a recent article by Ben Arronreich in the New Republic.

The piece came out before President Biden launched his $2.3 trillion infrastructure plan, promising to create jobs, supercharge alternative energy, and assure economic growth.

It will create millions of jobs, good-paying jobs, will grow the economy, make us more competitive around the world, promote our national security interests,

and put us in a position to win the global competition with China.

It's big yes. It's bold yes. And we can get it done.

Now back to Ben-Earonreich, it's that promise of continuing economic growth that worries him about global suicide.

In his own article, he cites another scary headline.

Listen to this, underestimating the challenges of avoiding a ghastly future.

That may sound like a 1950s horror comic, Ben admits, but it appeared in a reputable journal

signed by 17 scientists whose work was peer-reviewed, despite that term ghastly to predict

the future.

Ben Arunreich, welcome to our program.

Thank you, Warren.

It's a pleasure and honor to be on.

Sorry to introduce you as Mr. Bad News, but the news isn't good as far as you were concerned.

And let's start with the idea, which you express several times, with regard to what we refer to as climate change, that everything must change. What do you mean by that and how does it form the basis for this piece?

Well, you know, I've been writing and thinking about climate change for a few years,

reading as much of the literature as I could in terms of the scientific literature, which kind of only

gets worse. It feels like every few months there's a new kind of major paper drops, which has

some incredibly bad news, which is worse than the last bad news. And at the same time, reading

...