Everything Happens: A Not-So Hallmark Christmas

The Suga

Lemonada Media

Kids & Family, Parenting

4.8 • 773 Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

The pandemic introduced many to living with uncertainty. But for some, uncertainty has always been their norm. Actress Nikki Deloach has starred in several Hallmark Christmas movies, but her life hasn’t matched the happily-ever-after plot-lines of her characters. Nikki’s dad was diagnosed with an aggressive form of dementia and her son was diagnosed with congenital heart defects in utero… all in the same week. In this conversation, Kate and Nikki discuss how to live with constant uncertainty, how to stay open to both the terror and the beauty of living close to the edge, and how to make Christmas meaningful when hope is hard to come by. CW: suicidal ideation, postpartum depression, a parent grappling with a child’s fragile diagnosis, dementia

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0:00.0	This episode is brought to you by Primrose Schools. Who children become is as important as what they know.
0:07.3	That belief is at the heart the Primrose School's balanced learning approach, which weaves character
0:11.8	development into lessons every day. Balance learning goes beyond academics to nurture traits that
0:17.4	help children learn what it means to be a good friend, how to show respect for others,
0:22.0	why it's important to keep promises and more, all in a warm environment filled with loving teachers.
0:28.0	You know I love a space where kindness isn't a bonus, it's baked in, where little people are
0:32.7	learning to be brave and gentle and silly and strong, where they aren't just filling their brains,
0:37.3	but growing their
0:37.8	hearts. It makes me want to go back to preschool. A little snack time wouldn't hurt either.
0:43.1	From infant to age five, Primrose Schools is the leader in early education and care. Learn more
0:49.3	at Primrose Schools.com.
0:53.4	Hey there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus.
0:56.3	I'm back with a new season of Wiser Than Me, the show where I sit down with remarkable
1:01.9	older women and soak up their stories, their humor, and their hard-earned wisdom.
1:08.4	Every conversation leaves me a little smarter and definitely more inspired.
1:13.3	And yes, I'm still calling my 91-year-old mom, Judy, to get her take on it all.
1:20.0	Wiser than me from Lemonade Media premieres November 12th, wherever you get your podcasts.
1:32.8	Thank you. 12th, wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens.
1:38.0	Look, the world loves us when we are good, better, best.
1:42.8	But this is a podcast for when you want to stop feeling guilty
1:46.6	that you're not living your best life now.
1:49.7	We're not always living the plot line of the Bachelorette.
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