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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Every Second Counts with Actor Jon Bernthal (‘The Bear’)

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Over the long holiday weekend, we’re returning to our conversation with actor Jon Bernthal! To begin, we discuss his performance on HBO’s We Own This City (6:00), policing and gun culture in America (9:15), growing up grappling with toxic masculinity (14:47), his pivot to acting in college (23:30), and the powerful history of theater in Moscow (27:25).

On the back-half, he reflects on his first year in Los Angeles (32:45), the night that changed his life (37:44), and the magic behind the making of Martin Scorsese’s The Wolf of Wall Street (45:05). To close, Jon shares his hopes for the future (51:00) and how, as a father, he’s processed these tragic weeks in America (52:58).

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0:00.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm a stand for girls, so welcome to the show. Today over the long holiday weekend we're returning to our conversation with actor

0:47.1

John Bernthal. You've likely seen him in shows like The Walking Dead, we own this city, and of course, most recently, season two of the bear.

0:57.9

Although Bernthal is only in one episode this season, his character looms large, a kind of specter presiding over this group of

1:06.2

Chicago chefs that are trying desperately to start anew. If you've not seen The Bear, you can stream all episodes exclusively on Hulu.

1:16.0

Post succession, it's probably my favorite show on television, and because of that, we will be doing a couple bear themed episodes later this summer.

1:26.4

But until then, this talk with Bernthal, when I look back on everything we put out in

1:31.6

2022, is a real highlight and I should note that it's bookended by a

1:36.8

dialogue around gun violence at the time we were just a week out from the horrific shooting that took place in

1:44.7

Uvaldi, Texas and while it was a conversation firmly rooted in the moment when I

1:51.1

was relistening to it this week it could have just as easily been about America in

1:56.1

2023.

1:57.1

If you've not heard our episode from this year with Congressman Maxwell Frost about these very issues.

2:04.4

I would encourage you to check that one out.

2:07.2

The other reason I wanted to replay this over the holiday weekend,

2:10.6

beyond the timeliness and how great John is in the bear is because there's

2:16.0

something fundamentally American about Bernthal's story. It's one of redemption, failure, tragedy, triumph, and everything in between, more than just

2:27.1

about any guest in recent memory.

2:30.1

He's incredibly, sometimes painfully honest about his journey and all the detours he took before arriving at the place he is today.

2:39.0

And so with that, I hope you enjoy this talk with John. If you haven't checked out our latest

2:44.5

episodes with actor Michael Shannon, activist Gina Rossero, comedian Sarah Silverman,

2:50.6

and actor Oscar Isaac, you can do so wherever you are listening to this right now.

2:57.0

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