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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Even the Pros Are Wrong Half the Time. Here's What They Do Differently SB1820

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

Business, Financial Planning, Cfp, Education, Personal Finance, Retirement, Investing, Money

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

The best investors in the world are wrong -- a lot. Researchers Claire Flynn Levy and Lee Freeman-Shor spent over a decade studying elite money managers and found that being right about stock picks isn't actually what separates the winners. What separates them is what happens after the pick. The discipline, the rules, the willingness to act when the data changes -- and the ability to remove emotion from decisions most people make entirely on feeling.

What You'll Walk Away With

  • Why top investors can be wrong more than half the time and still dramatically outperform -- and what that means for how you evaluate your own strategy
  • The critical shift from obsessing over what to buy to building a repeatable process around what you do next
  • Three behavioral tribes investors fall into when a position moves against them -- and which one quietly destroys long-term returns
  • Two distinct ways investors handle winning positions -- and why the more comfortable approach tends to leave serious money on the table
  • How elite investors use predefined rules to decide when to sell, trim, or hold -- and why removing emotion from that decision is the whole game
  • A real-world example of a rules-based system built around earnings surprises and data-driven holding periods -- one you can actually learn from
  • Why planting tiny "seed" positions can preserve massive upside while keeping risk almost invisible on the downside
  • The hidden cost of a pattern so common it barely registers -- holding losers too long while cutting winners too early
  • What makes China's market behave unlike anywhere else -- and how one maestro built an entire strategy around it
  • The AI cautionary tale hiding inside this episode -- a real advisor, a real client presentation, and math that was off by a factor of 12

Why This Matters Now

For investors in their 40s, the goal quietly shifts. Finding the next big winner starts to matter less than building something that actually holds up over time. Markets feel noisier, AI tools feel more powerful, and the promise of faster answers has never been louder. But long-term results still come down to behavior, discipline, and repeatable systems -- the same unglamorous edge the pros have been using all along. Knowing that changes how you listen to the noise.

From the Basement

Joe and OG press Claire and Lee on what a decade of studying elite investors actually reveals -- and the answers are more behavioral than most people expect. The crew then turns to AI in financial advice, and OG shares a story that should give every advisor and DIY investor pause before they hit send on anything they haven't personally verified. Doug arrives with a trivia question that somehow connects Michael Jackson's moonwalk to one giant leap for your bragging rights. Whether the basement scoreboard sticks the landing is best discovered with your earbuds in.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Who's with me?

0:02.0

Hey!

0:03.0

Yeah!

0:04.0

Come!

0:05.0

All right!

0:07.0

Let's do this, people!

0:09.0

Live from Joe's Mom's Basement, it's The Stacking Benjamin Show.

0:33.8

I'm Joe's mom's neighbor, Doug, and how would you like to be a stock market maestro?

0:39.3

Today, we're talking to two researchers who've studied the best and brightest for over a decade and today will report on their findings. It's Claire Flynn Levy and Lee Freeman Shore.

0:46.1

Yeah, and believe it or not with all those names, it's still just two people. In our headline

0:50.6

segment, more and more financial advisors and pros are using AI. Is there a potential

0:56.1

downside we haven't yet imagined? We'll pose this question to OG. But we don't do that before I

1:02.7

pose to you, my awesome trivia question. I'll bet you get today's right so you can brag to all your

1:08.3

friends. And now two guys who brag to their friends that they get to help you with your money habits.

1:15.4

It's Joe and O, Jha, Jha, Jujer, G.

1:21.9

Well, hey there, Stackers.

1:23.5

Welcome back to the Stacky Benjamin Show.

1:25.6

We're super happy you're here, sit down and relax. You found us. Grab whatever you're going to take notes with because we're about to help you do better with your stock portfolio. I'm excited. We haven't talked stocks in a long time, OG. And with markets, you know. Those are going down. The markets bump around a lot on a normal day.

1:45.4

We always laugh, be like, oh, the market's volatile.

1:47.3

The market's always volatile.

1:48.3

But it might be a little bit volatility lately.

1:51.4

So good time to talk about analyzing your portfolio.

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