Evangelizing Without Pushing People Away
Every Knee Shall Bow (Your Catholic Evangelization Podcast)
Ascension
4.9 • 863 Ratings
🗓️ 21 January 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
How do we truly accompany people into the Catholic Church? This campus minister seems to have cracked the code! Dave and Gomer chat with Kevin Pesek, the Campus Minister at St. Mary's Catholic Center at Texas A&M to talk about the surprising growth they’re seeing in OCIA and what’s driving it. Kevin shares what’s working in their approach to curriculum, why vocation numbers are soaring, and how young people are deeply hungry for an authentic relationship with Jesus in the Catholic Church.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by Ascension. |
| 0:02.6 | To discover even more free Catholic podcasts, videos, and resources, to help you live your faith every day, visit ascensionpress.com. |
| 0:11.0 | To enter into heaven, you have to go through the cross. |
| 0:14.0 | That's how we get there, right? |
| 0:16.0 | And the crucifix hangs down right over the altar, right over the steps where communion happens, right? |
| 0:22.0 | Where heaven meets earth, when Father comes down from the altar with the Eucharist, right? |
| 0:25.9 | Like, that's where we enter into communion. |
| 0:27.3 | Welcome to every knee, me Shall Bow, your weekly Catholic podcast on evangelization and discipleship. |
| 0:45.4 | My name is Mike Gomer Gormley, and I am joined today by Dave Van Vickle. |
| 0:50.2 | How you doing, Dave? |
| 0:51.6 | Whoa. |
| 1:14.6 | No, no, no. See, you think I didn't give you a nickname. It was breathy pause, but in brackets, right? Like closed captioning. I'm cool with that. I'm doing well. I'm at the Tay Dayam Conference. The Tay Dayam Conference. Yeah, the Tay Dayam Conference for, it's for like people training and exorcism. So it sounds like it's super serious, but really it's like a reunion every year. |
| 1:15.8 | Like the same people come. |
| 1:16.8 | It's like so fun. |
| 1:18.8 | You survive this year. |
| 1:22.2 | Yeah, I only lost the one eye from the exorcism that went awry. |
| 1:24.0 | No, no, no. |
| 1:24.8 | It's not like that. |
| 1:37.2 | I imagine at the conference called Tay Dayam that the majority of people are either trad Catholic Latin masters or Charismatics. |
| 1:38.2 | Is this true? |
| 1:41.5 | Well, that's just exorcism conferences in general. |
| 1:43.1 | Yeah, that's what I'm saying. |
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