His guilt is screaming, is screaming at you, Mike.

Yeah, Bill, that's the thing.

In hindsight, when we kind of, you know, we see things with 2020 vision.

So after you realize what has been going on, and then you go back and you look at the interviews that she'd given,

that Jen had given to the newspaper reporter

and news reporter and he's in the background, you know, doing things hovering around, cracking his

knuck, whatever. And then he's interviewed and he's got the tears and he's he's mumbling and crying.

We see it in hindsight is, oh my God, that's a sign. But while it's happening, you know,

the police, they've got a missing girl. So maybe, and they're listening to what the people are saying,

maybe not so much as how they're saying it, but they're looking for tidbits of information,

times, dates, location, who would she be with? Has she ever done this before? You know, all those little

tidbits of information. They're looking for survival of that girl, get her back as quick as they

can, and they're not actually at that time perhaps thinking so much about who here, which one of

these two people may have done it. Hours later, when they start to check out stories, then they start to review

everything they know, and they'd start to see those sorts of little signs in the background.

But in the beginning, it's Maddie's survival and getting information as quickly as they can

to find her. That's what they're concentrating on. Absolutely. JPL, J the Stelodoro. It seems like so many

people had like a little heads up of what's going on with Stefan Stearns, but nobody did a thing

to help this child. You know, JPL, J. The Stiladoural, unfortunately, that's the way it is

in a lot of these cases.

People turn a blind eye.

People don't want to get involved.

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