Hi everyone, welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility.

I'm Hannah Lutz, Director of Technology and Innovation Coverage at Automotive News, filling in for Pete Bigelow.

Today I'm speaking with Gabe Klein.

Gabe had a leading role in building public charging infrastructure for electric vehicles

when he led the Joint Office of Energy and

Transportation during President Joe Biden's term. Today, he's still embedded in the charging and

technology space. The state of the industry, and I talk to a lot of players, they're very confident

in the future. Automotive news reporter Lawrence Iliff joins me on the podcast today to talk about

lots of EV topics.

Hi, Lonnie. Thanks for coming on the show. It's great to be here. So a lot's been going on in the

EV space since President Donald Trump took office, which we'll get into shortly with our guest, Gabe

Klein. Lonnie, you closely track EV sales. We have some results from July. What are you seeing so far?

Okay. So what we're seeing is a EV wave, right, which is what we expected. You know, if

if you want to buy an electric car like any time in the near future, right, you have that $7,500

federal tax credit that you can build into a lease. That's what most

people do. And I just looked at the lease deals that came out a couple days ago. And they're great.

I mean, there's a Subaru Sultara lease that's $269 a month and $269 down, which is like,

that means you're paying basically $300 a month for a great car.

But lots of those, the Cheveny Equinox had a record month, and GM generally more than double

their EVs, right?

They have a lot of them coming out.

You know, the Equinox is fairly new.

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