Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast. This is where you can find extended versions of my

conversations on public television. I'm Ian Bremmer coming to you today from Davos, Switzerland,

home of the 56th World Economic Forum. Nearly 3,000 participants have gathered here for more

than 130 countries, including hundreds of CEOs and dozens of heads of state.

It's the largest gathering of such leaders in the post-COVID era.

But one man made an entrance that chilled even the crisp alpine air.

On the eve of this gathering, U.S. President Donald Trump doubled down on his desire to own Greenland,

even threatening tariffs against the block of European countries who drew a red line in the snow

and stood with Denmark. This transatlantic battle is, of course, just one of many geopolitical

challenges on the table in Davos at a moment defined by enormous uncertainty.

In Europe, allies are adjusting to an America that is more transactional, one that is dismantling

the global order it created and fostered for decades.

And today, I'm bringing you two conversations that get to the heart of that shift.

Finland's president, Alexander Stubb joins me

to discuss how Europe is responding to this new reality.

And also, I spoke with the International Monetary Funds,

managing director, Kristolina Gorghava,

about what the change in the world order means for the global economy.

Let's get to it.

Thank you. Nice to see you.

Not our first rodeo, huh?

No, no.

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