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#EU: VS POTUS. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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#EU: VS POTUS. JUDY DEMPSEY, SENIOR SCHOLAR, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE IN BERLIN.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John That's with my good colleague, Judy Dempsey, a senior scholar for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, commenting on the EU.

0:14.0

Headline from the Financial Times, this is London. Top Donald Trump official tells Europe to choose between U.S. or Chinese communications tech.

0:24.0

FCC chair Brendan Carr urges, quote, Western allies to pick Elon Musk's Starlink satellite internet company.

0:31.9

It goes on to say that you're either with us or against us when it comes to communications.

0:38.9

Judy and I are speaking on Starlink right now is very reliable here in rural America,

0:44.9

and it would be equally useful as a mobile technology as well.

0:51.4

Musk is well ahead of all the other intentions to put up constellations, but China intends

0:56.5

to go through.

0:57.7

There are other countries who are thinking about it, but this looks very much like a challenge

1:02.6

to Germany.

1:03.5

How has it heard, Judy, that we're saying you're either with us or against us?

1:08.4

Well, the person who first said this was a man called Yanos Khadar, the communist

1:13.6

party leader, who was put into power after the crushing of the Hungarian uprising by

1:19.1

Soviet tanks, and he gave this big speech, he was not against us, is with us. And so this kind

1:26.0

of phrase, I was quite shocked by actually reading it in today's

1:29.8

financial times. Now, Brendan Carr must know that Europe is not going to make this choice

1:36.8

between America and China unless, you know, Americans came up with a decent offer that wasn't ideological, especially

1:45.8

given Elon Musk's attitude towards Ukrainians and continue to provide a Starlink.

1:51.5

But this is an opportunity for the Europeans to speed up the EU-Tel satellites and the SES

1:59.0

one. And they have got the

2:02.5

expertise, they've got the

2:05.1

money, they've got the

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