Europe, the European Union, Germany, and Poland, two vital states to the war in Europe

and yet we look now to jury Dempsey of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

She's the Editor-in-Chief of Strategic Europe and helps me understand how our European

allies, NATO and the EU, are dealing with the extreme risks in the Ukraine conflict and

the refugee crisis it has created, especially for the neighboring states to accept people

fleeing from the battles but at the same time for how long and what happens next.

This is a story about the chance of Germany, all of Schultz, and Polish leadership that's

undergoing an election cycle.

A read from the Financial Times, the pink paper from London, German Chancellor Olaf Schultz

has waded into Poland's cash for visas scandal, demanding an investigation into allegations

that Warsaw turned a blind eye to officials operating the scheme and threatening to restore

border controls between Germany and Poland to stop the flow of undocumented migrants from

Poland.

Judy, a very good day to you.

I read this story for the first time and was confused, I know we've touched on Poland

in the past which has a troublesome government, however it's become a vital part of the

Ukraine war, staging support NGOs, refugee flows and weapons into Ukraine, overland.

However, this looks to be a situation that could easily get out of control.

Is it?

Good day to you, Judy.

Good day to you, John and thank you for having me on your show.

Well, you've raised a very sensitive issue that has been bubbling over the last couple

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