Hey, everybody. Thank you for tuning in. Welcome to Pillars. Of course, I am Dylan Bowman,

and today I have the great pleasure of sharing a fun

conversation with Ethan Newberry. That's right. The Ginger Runner, Ethan Newberry is in the building,

and I had an absolute blast turning the tables on him. After several appearances on his show,

of course, Ginger Runner Live on YouTube,

and after having him tell my story

through his incredible skill as a filmmaker,

I got to turn the camera in the microphone

in Ethan's direction and return the favor for once.

And it was so, so fun for me.

I, uh, I tried to make this episode the definitive how I built this for the ginger

runner empire.

So Guy Raz doesn't have to do that, uh that over on his dinky little podcast.

So we went deep on Ethan's history as a creator, hustling, trying to make it as a starving artist in Los Angeles,

finding his niche on YouTube, committing to it 100%, and finally being able to pursue his passion and his

creative goals as a career. Ethan is such a versatile talent. He's a charismatic personality,

but he struggled hard to get to where he's at now. And there is so much to learn from his journey. He does great things for

our sport as well. He's got unique perspective on the creative process, dealing with anxiety

and self-doubt, building community, the present and future of the creator economy, and much, much more. This is a longer one,

so there's not much more to say here in their introduction. I'd an absolute blast on this one.

I hope you guys enjoy it too. Please welcome the Ginger Runner, the great Ethan Newberry.

Can I say hi to Ryan Thoreer since I know he'll listen to this?

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