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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

ETF Madness

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Education, Business, Investing, How To

4.5 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Don and Tom dive into the wild world of “speculative” ETFs inspired by Jason Zweig’s WSJ piece, mocking the absurdity of funds like the Icelandic stock market ETF (35 stocks, really?) and those tracking things like crude oil shipping futures. They debunk the myth that “ETF” means safe and highlight the rise of investing as entertainment. Later, they discuss disclaiming inherited assets, why tax planning and estate titling matter, and why deferred compensation plans should be part of a bigger strategy—not just a reaction. Listener calls from Maryland, Sammamish, Yelm, and Illinois round out the episode with smart, practical retirement planning questions. 0:17 ETFs as sport? Jason Zweig’s takedown of gimmicky, risky ETFs 1:29 Iceland ETF, HVAC stocks, and crude oil transport—this isn’t investing 3:35 GLCR: The Iceland ETF with a 1% fee and a chilly 35-stock portfolio 5:09 Diversification vs. “D-versification” and the illusion of ETF safety 5:40 Why investing shouldn’t feel exciting—and what that says about us 6:50 Zweig’s gambling metaphor and why “just 5%” is still real money 8:56 Listener Eugene on inheriting IRAs and disclaiming taxable accounts 12:25 Legal disclaimers: IRS Rule 2518, timing, and why PODs are cleaner 15:23 Estate attorney reminders and state law disclaiming quirks 17:24 Sammamish listener Jason on VXUS vs. VEA for international exposure 18:56 Tesla talk: Waiting for $400, fears, and the balance sheet debate 22:03 Listener Chris from Yelm: Deferred comp vs. dividend stocks 26:34 Chris needs a real plan, not just portfolio improvisation 29:40 Strategy: Spend from taxable, defer the deferred 33:03 Listener Joni from Illinois: Maxing contributions and Roth eligibility 35:58 Congress’ oddly specific 60–63 catch-up rules and K Street lobbying Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

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0:26.6

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0:35.0

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0:38.0

We're talking real money.

0:40.7

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to the ETF arena.

0:45.9

Where indexed ETFs square off against each other in a battle to the death.

0:53.9

Yeah, not really. But it is becoming more like a sport.

0:59.7

ETF investing is getting a little bit crazy. And that's the subject of an article that we're

1:06.6

going to talk about today from our friend Jason's Wygg at the Wall Street Journal,

1:10.7

the sport of

1:11.7

ETF investing.

1:12.8

Hello everybody.

1:13.5

Welcome to Talking Real Money.

1:15.6

I'm Don McDonald, your announcer, along with Tom Cock the Color guy.

1:22.3

What?

1:23.1

Just shaking my head, because when you read stuff like this, you just have to shake your

1:26.6

head.

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