Eternal Torment or Final End? Rethinking Hell | Dan Paterson v Jordan Wood hosted by Vince Vitale

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🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Few topics raise as many questions as hell. Is it eternal torment, final destruction, or something else entirely? In this episode of Premier Unbelievable?, Vince Vitale is joined by Australian apologist Dan Paterson (Questioning Christianity: Is There More to the Story?) and Catholic theologian Jordan Wood (The Whole Mystery of Christ). Together they explore whether the traditional doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment is biblically and theologically defensible, and why so many Christians today are reconsidering alternative views such as conditional immortality or annihilationism. • Support us: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PremierUnbelievable/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/premierunbelievable - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@premierunbelievable - X (Twitter) https://x.com/unbelievablefe

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0:50.6	life's biggest questions from all angles. If you're listening, thank you for being part of these conversations.
0:56.2	I'm Vince Vitale, and today's debate is on the topic of hell.
1:00.7	What is it? Is it real?
1:02.5	And if so, who goes there and what is it like?
1:05.5	Joining me is Dan Patterson, founder of Questioning Christianity,
1:09.5	a ministry that helps people connect the Christian
1:11.5	story to their deepest questions. Dan studied theology and apologetics, both in Australia and Oxford,
1:17.8	England. He's experienced as a pastor, seminary lecturer, public speaker, and amateur snake catcher.
1:24.8	Well done, Dan, for fulfilling all of our Australian stereotypes. That may be a
1:29.3	first for the show, so we're going to need to circle back to that story. But in the meantime,
1:33.0	those of you listening, be sure to check out Dan's book. It's called Questioning Christianity. Is
1:37.8	there more to the story? Opposite Dan today is Jordan Wood, who is assistant professor of theology at Belmont University.
1:46.3	I'm going to hazard a guess that Jordan is not a snake catcher, but he also has a book for you to check out.
1:50.9	That's entitled The Whole Mystery of Christ, Creation as Incarnation in Maximus Confessor, which was published by University of Notre Dame Press in 2022.
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