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🗓️ 29 July 2025
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On 29 July 2000, retired Spanish politician Juan Mari Jáuregui was assassinated by Basque separatists Eta. Deemed a terrorist organisation by the European Union, Eta killed more than 800 people between 1968 and 2010. Its goal was to create an independent Basque state out of territory in south-west France and northern Spain.
Following Jáuregui’s murder, his widow Maixabel Lasa worked to help victims of political violence and highlight their suffering, weakening Eta’s support. A decade later, she received a message from one of the men involved in Jáuregui’s murder. He wanted to meet her and take responsibility for his actions, beginning a remarkable friendship.
In 2011, Eta declared a permanent ceasefire, and formally disbanded in 2018.
Maixabel Lasa speaks to Ben Henderson.
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0:49.9 | Today we're going to Spain's Basque Country on the 29th of July 2000. |
0:54.6 | Retired politician Juan Marie Hauregi and his wife, My Shaba Lassa, |
0:58.7 | are celebrating their silver wedding anniversary. |
1:01.3 | But that morning, he wakes in a cold sweat. |
1:07.4 | Juanari told me he had a dream. |
1:09.5 | In the dream he was with his friend and they were meeting up for coffee. |
1:14.4 | And when he got in the car, they killed him. |
1:18.3 | I was a little shock, of course, by what he said. |
1:21.8 | I reassured him. |
1:23.1 | I said, don't worry. |
1:24.8 | It's only a dream. |
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