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Masters of Scale

Esther Perel: Build better relationships at work

Masters of Scale

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Reid Hoffman, Mindset, Diversity & Inclusion, Jeff Berman, Bob Safian, Startups

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Therapist Esther Perel wants us all to build stronger relationships at work. Her coveted advice is the centerpiece of her books, TED talks and podcast “Where Should We Begin?” During the pandemic, she launched a conversational card game. Now, she joins host Jeff Berman to talk about why she just released a new edition, Where Should We Begin? At Work, designed specifically for coworkers. They also go deep on why stronger relational intelligence is essential for businesses, how AI is rewiring our brains, and more.

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0:00.0

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0:11.8

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0:24.3

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0:30.1

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0:36.5

In today's high-speed business world,

0:39.1

staying ahead means using the smartest tools possible,

0:42.4

including the powerful capabilities of artificial intelligence.

0:46.6

Meet Turing Intelligence.

0:49.1

Turing builds customizable AI systems

0:51.2

designed to solve your mission-critical challenges,

0:55.4

no matter your industry.

1:01.9

From expert guidance to tailored projects, Turing helps top companies realize AI that's more capable, more adaptable, and more effective. With Turing, discover how AI can accelerate your

1:08.5

business growth. Visit Turing.com to learn more.

1:12.2

That's turing.com.

1:16.5

You don't necessarily need to know what people are fighting about

1:20.1

because you want to find out what they're fighting for.

1:24.6

The subject is irrelevant.

1:27.4

This week on the show, we have therapists, author,

1:30.2

and podcaster Astaire Perel. Her coveted advice on relationships is the centerpiece for books,

1:37.1

her TED talks, and her podcast. Where should we begin? We talk with Esther about cultivating

1:42.9

healthy workplaces and how to keep co-founders from having

1:46.1

ugly breakups. Sixty-five percent of startups fail because of relationship breakdowns.

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