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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Estate Planning Made Simple and How to Handle Family Loans

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Investing, How To, Education, Business

4.3 • 895 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to build a simple estate plan and lend or repay family money without hurting your relationships. What’s the first thing to do when creating an estate plan? What’s the smartest way to handle loans between friends or family? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola break down estate-planning basics like wills, revocable trusts, living wills/advance healthcare directives, and durable powers of attorney — tools that can ensure your wishes are carried out and help your loved ones avoid probate. They also share when to update your documents, how beneficiary designations can override your will, and three simple to-dos to get started without feeling overwhelmed. Then, mortgage and student loans writer Kate Wood joins Sean and Elizabeth to answer a listener’s question about paying a loan back to her parents. They explore how family loans and lending circles work, why it’s important to put agreements in writing (and when notarizing helps), and the impact informal loans can have on your credit. They also weigh different ways to set money aside, comparing high-yield savings accounts with taxable brokerage accounts invested in ETFs and considering timelines, growth potential, and tax trade-offs. Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: estate planning, will vs trust, revocable trust, living will, durable power of attorney, healthcare proxy, advance healthcare directive, probate explained, beneficiary designation vs will, update beneficiaries after marriage, how often to update a will, intestate meaning, avoid probate, family loan agreement, lend money to family safely, informal lending, lending circle, saving circle, notarized loan contract, pros and cons of family loans, protect relationships when lending money, credit score and informal loans, high-yield savings accounts, taxable brokerage accounts, ETF basics for beginners, repaying parents for college, fiduciary roles in estate planning, power dynamics of lending to friends, writing a repayment schedule, when to use a trust for minors, and retitling assets into a trust. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Would you ever lend a friend money?

0:02.0

I mean, I'm not talking about just picking up the tab after a night out.

0:05.0

I'm talking about thousands of dollars.

0:07.0

Well, I might if I could afford not to get it back.

0:11.0

But I have definitely lended close to $1,000 before, and I got it back.

0:16.0

Okay.

0:17.0

Well, I think it goes to show you to lend it to the right person, and that's super important.

0:24.7

On today's episode, we're talking about whether you should lend friends and family money.

0:36.4

Welcome to Nerd Wallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds.

0:37.2

I'm Sean Piles.

0:38.4

And I'm Elizabeth Ayola. This episode, we going to be discussing informal lending, aka borrowing money from anyone

0:44.1

but a formal lender. But first, we're going to discuss a topic that you might have been avoiding,

0:49.0

estate planning. My favorite topic. Yes, I know that's weird. And I know this can be a morbid topic, but I really

0:55.7

hate to see people pass or become incapacitated and then see their loved ones go through lengthy

1:00.1

and expensive court processes, fighting over what happens to their assets or just struggling to

1:05.3

make decisions on their behalf, especially when most of that could be avoided with an estate plan.

1:10.2

Yeah, and as a general overview, an estate plan is basically a set of legal documents and a process that outlines how your assets, medical care, and guardianship of dependence will be managed and distributed after your death, or if you become incapacitated.

1:23.3

They include things like a trust, last will and testament, living will, durable power of attorney, and advanced health care directive.

1:29.9

And I know that sounds like a ton of documents. When I first started estate planning, I was like, what the heck is all of this?

1:35.3

But estate plans are usually divided into two buckets to make it easier for you to understand.

1:39.4

So bucket number one could be documents that cover you if you're alive but are incapacitated or unable to make

1:45.1

decisions. And then the second bucket usually outlines what happens after you die. And speaking of

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