Spaces between thoughts. In this podcast, Eckhart leads a live meditation on pausing our

thoughts without suppressing them. Eckhart says it's more important to be aware of one's self as

presence than to get lost in the mind. With practice, gradually the spaces between thoughts increase and more spaciousness

grows within. Our lives become more peaceful and we move closer to a feeling of liberation.

Welcome. Let's see if you can let go of thinking without suppressing thinking, but simply treat any

thought that may arise as just a thought while we're here during our life meditation. Treat any thought

that arises as just a thought and no more than a thought.

In other words, don't become too interested in any thought that may arise, become uninterested

in thought while we're here. Or, in other words, don't go along with every thought.

Don't get drawn into every thought that arises. Don't follow it where it wants to take you and

you go. And then internally you're off. The thought comes in and you follow it. It has a

pulling power and then it pulls your attention into it, which is conscious attention.

It goes into thought and off you go.

You might still be sitting here.

You will still be sitting here, probably.

But internally you go off into following some kind of sword. You lose presence.

You're not aware of yourself as the presence anymore. You know, only aware of the sword

and you go off. And if you don't follow every sword, but just if it does arise, there it is,

you remain aware as the observing presence, which is more important than the thought.

The awareness, the presence, which is who you are in your essence is more important than the thought.

It is more important to be aware of that awareness, to be aware of yourself as the awareness,

as the presence, then to get involved in thought.

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