Just that one cell where I was detained and about 50 people we couldn't even not lie down.

We were all sitting in the other's back.

Early in the morning, I was going to tell the guy who was lenin against my back because it was too heavy.

But when I was trying to tell him, his body was falling because he died while he was

linen against my back.

Welcome, everybody.

This is Simon Gilbo with Inspired.

Great to be back with you for another fantastic guest.

My goodness.

Inspired, if you're new to us, it's all about meeting friends and acquaintances of mine from all across the spectrum of life's experiences and hearing how they came to faith, what faith has made an impact in their journey, how they've overcome the sucker punches and challenges that life has thrown at them. And all the more more because we've bombarded relentlessly by so

much cynicism and negativity and bad news in the press that we need to feed our souls and spirits

with good news and I'm so looking forward to this week because we have with us Timothy Cho. Welcome

Timothy. Thank you for having me today. It's great to have you bro. It's been a challenging to

arrange a slot because you're so,

so busy. You're off to America tomorrow. You're in massive demands, speaking at various

conferences, be it before the UN, Human Rights Watch Commission, all sorts of stuff. I've watched

those interviews that you've done with them on big stages. Timothy is co-secretariat of the UK

All-Party Parliamentary Group on North Korea. He's also an

open-doors spokesman. I'm going back years, I did lots of campaigning with Open Doors. We both

can claim Brother Andrew, the founder, as our friend. He endorsed a few of my books. I'm so

grateful for his impact on my life. I know you've

met with him a number of times before he graduated to glory and he was a blessing in your life too.

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