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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to OnScript. Returning once again is

Professor Irvine Shablatsum, who's become a kind of Engel Spring fixture on the podcast. He's a

theologian and a scientist, among other things, who runs the Center for Excellence in the Lake

District in UK. And I understand that he's also planning to open more centers for excellence,

not only in other parts of the world, which is in the works, as he put it,

but also in each and every mind.

And I find that idea is so compelling, the idea that each of us can become a center of and for excellence.

Of course, guided by your books, Dr. Splatzman, and they've been a real guide, sort of mentor to a lot of us,

including among your books are The Cheerful Taker, New Economics for Pauline Christians in a Changing World,

Abraham's bosom,

Paul, and the decline of postmodernism, child rearing with the Apostle Paul in the book of Revelation,

but he's here to discuss his latest book, The Emotionally Healthy Paul, Interemotional Intelligence with the Apostle Paul. As always, listeners listeners buckle up. Professor Shiblatum,

welcome back. Hello, hello America. Hello, Canada. Hello, everybody else. Dr. Shablatum

is in on the podcast. It's good to be back. Emotionally, physically,

interiorly, it's great to be back. Back again. Look who's back. Yeah. Yeah, it's good.

Great to have you, as you've put it. Now, before we get to the book, you mentioned, you know, when we were talking before

we hit record that this topic has become quite personal for you. This is a topic of emotional

health. Why don't you riff on that? Absolutely. And thank you. Emotional stuff, to balance of two things. Transparency, that's key. Vulnerability. That's key. To be vulnerable is to be. If we were to merge transparency and vulnerability, what do you get, Matthew?

Let's do some wordplay.

Oh, like, vonsperacy or, you know, some word that's the hybrid of them.

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