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Well, today we have with us on the podcast a I'm not going to say divisive but a woman who's been at the center of some generational conflict recently

Erica Duwan, a word-winning keynote speaker and author her new book Digital Body Language had a build trust and connection no matter the distance is out now. Erica, thank you for bravely coming on the show.

Oh, I'm so excited to be here Eliza. So first of all, I'm going to say what everybody's thinking. Why'd you do it? Why'd you come up with a name that hurts all of our feelings for a micro-generation?

I recently published a new book as you know Eliza called Digital Body Language and it was based on years of research studying the digital communication differences across generations.

And one of the things that I found in my research was that the difference within micro-generations were impossible to ignore while a younger millennial would hate a voicemail and elder millennial would be someone that would be okay with it because they remember the world of landlines and punch cards.

And one of the things I decided to do was write a piece on medium as you know where I defined what's called the geriatric millennial. One thing I think is important is I actually didn't coin this term.

The first two lines of my medium piece was when I first heard the term that a friend when a friend used it, I thought it was a sarcastic oxymoron as well.

I read that article and my first thought when you said that and I'm just going to be honest because we're friends now. My first thought was she's lying, she's never heard it because I've never heard it.

I've never heard this term. She said that just for the article. Where did you hear that?

You know, I did hear it from a girlfriend and so I can't even take the whole credit from it. But one of the things that I think has been so powerful about the dialogue as a result of this is both those that have messaged me and said I feel like I'm going to be a real friend.

I've never reached to me and said I feel seen there are hundreds of people that now have geriatric millennial in their Twitter and Instagram profiles. I'm not kidding. Check it out.

And then others that were completely offended. And I think what is important about this is oftentimes we think of being old as being out of date.

But in this context, I think for so many years, millennials were seen as the young entitled kids, but what I was trying to showcase in my article was that we actually have a lot of wisdom. We can bring to this time. We understand analog and digital body language.

And that was really the goal of the piece not to create a firestorm. Right.

I'm fighting about a label.

I can respect that because I remember when I first heard it, because people started just bombarding me as if I had to like defend elder millennial. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it encapsulates it.

And then I was like, well, I wonder if she, you know, because in my mind, you would coin the term. This is prior to reading the article and just obviously being an internet person just dealing with the fallback fallback, dealing with the fallout of all of it.

So I looked up geriatric.

The most people probably didn't read the article. Of course, the Twitter posts as well.

Absolutely. And so I was like, well, let me look up geriatric. Just in case there's this hidden definition, but relating to old people, especially with regard to their health care, an old person receiving special care.

And I was like, okay, there's no alt definition. And I'm 38 and you know, I just in dealing with like children and stuff. They're like, oh, it's a geriatric pregnancy.

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