You know, when I meet senior leadership teams, they always complain to me about the same things.

Like, no one follows our instructions.

Communicating is really hard.

We have different teams pulling in different directions.

Everyone's, you know, slavishly devoted to the plan, even when the plan makes no sense.

People don't experiment enough.

There's not enough innovation.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I always say, great, excellent.

I'm sure all that is true. Now look in the mirror. Now you're looking at the problem. All those people work for you.

So if they're all, I can think about it, if they're consistently doing the wrong thing, what is the

one thing they have in common? You. They all work for you. You are the source of the problem.

Are you really willing to change? And most people are like, nope, thanks for coming in. Like, I'd rather, can you sell me a tonic? You know, can you sell me some snake oil? Can I, you know, and you see that now all these AI vendors being like, oh, instead of you having to change anything, just sprinkle a little AI fairy dust on there and boom, all your problems will be solved. No, at the end of the day, how you hold people accountable, what you hold them accountable for, and what your values are as a leader, ultimately will determine how the organization

adapts and evolves over time.

Welcome to Franklin Covey's On Leadership.

I'm your host, Jennifer Colosimo.

On Leadership provides insight to our listeners through discussions

with senior leaders, thought leaders, practitioners with earned experience, all focused on the

human side of strategy and transformation. Today's guest, Eric Reese, is the author of the book, Incorruptible,

Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great,

a guide on maintaining company integrity and mission as organizations grow.

As the author of The Lean Startup, The Startup Way,

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