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Joining us now is New York Times best-selling author and host of the Eric Metaxus radio show,

also seen right here on TBN, Eric Metaxus.

Eric, I've been on your show a number of times, and now you're on Takeaways with me.

Welcome.

Now I'm going to get it, right?

What I dish out on my show, making fun of you, I know now you're thinking, Eric, payback time. Maybe that's not biblical. I don't care. You're going to get it. Thank you, my friend, for having me on your program. This is great. Well, I love guys who can dish it out and they can take it. Listen, we've been friends for a while and I've I've so been blessed by your books and your wit and and your sharp outfits that you always wear. And you've got

me to start to dress a little bit nicer now that I'm a host like you are. But most people know

you, Eric, for the books that you've written.

I mean, look at them. They're to your right. They're to your left. You've written all of these

books on these great heroes of the past and now ideas like atheism is dead and other important

topics. I see you shifting, though, more and more toward media guru. Not just author. You've got a radio show. I see

you on your podcast. Was that a natural shift for you? Or did one day you wake up and you said, hey,

I got a face for TV? That's funny. Thank you. Honestly, Kirk, it's hard to say because I've always

felt called by the Lord to do both these things. And a lot of people say, well, you've got to choose. You're going to do this. You're going to do this. And I think, well, I don't have to choose. The Lord created me to do these things. And I'm just going to do what I think he wants me to do. And I'm going to let him sort it out. He's my manager. And I totally mean that.

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