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Bloomberg Surveillance

Equities Pull Back as Bonds Signal Warnings

Bloomberg Surveillance

Bloomberg

Business News, News, Investing, Business

3.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Bloomberg Surveillance hosted by Tom Keene & Paul SweeneyMay 23rd, 2025
Featuring:
1) Sebastien Page, head of Global Multi-Asset and Chair of the Asset Allocation Steering Committee at T. Rowe Price, joins for an extended discussion on whipsawing markets and where money managers are allocating their money in an increasingly uncertain economic environment. The S&P 500 remains on course for its worst weekly performance since the selloff following President Donald Trump’s tariff announcements at the beginning of the April.
2) Barry Eichengreen, professor at University of California-Berkeley, talks about the Trump administration's international economic policies and whether they serve both global and domestic interests. It comes as US businesses are the most worried about the impact of President Donald Trump’s shifting tariff policies on their revenues, with more than half projecting a hit of at least 25% to their revenue, according to a survey by HSBC.
3) Emily Roland, Co-Chief Investment Strategist at John Hancock Investment Management, talks about continued signals from global bonds about US debt and whether it's just another warning signal that will pass. Many investors believe Trump has learned his lesson and will implement a more modest tariff plan, which is why they are no longer worried about the impact of tariffs on the market, but the market is still susceptible to macro shocks, and investors are now focusing on fundamentals.
4) Joe Lavorgna, Chief Economist at SMBC Nikko Securities, joins to discuss President Trump's tweets on tariffs that would affect Apple and the EU.
5) Lisa Mateo joins with the latest headlines in newspapers across the US, including a WSJ story on expensive mocktails and a Bloomberg News story on Tom Cruise receiving an aircraft carrier for one of his missions.

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1:01.9

Joining us now, we start struggling on a really wonderful Friday with Sebastian Page.

1:06.3

Had a global multi-asset, chair of asset allocation steering committee tiro price acclaimed author

1:12.7

the best book on diversification i've seen in his new book is out as well the psychology

1:19.3

of leadership i want to go to yens nordvig damien came walking and screaming about with exante data

1:25.8

and the single sentence from yen's into the weekend is

1:29.2

strategic shifts are in motion. What's in motion, Sebastian Page? You know, the last 48 hours,

1:37.5

it's about the 30-year bond and it's gone up above 5%. I think that's a lot of hoopla about not much. If I look at the long

1:48.2

run chart, you know, like Damien, it's a long weekend. I'm actually looking at charts and I'm

1:53.4

interested. If I've got the long run chart of the 30 year yield, it's actually not that far from 5%.

1:58.6

No. Well, I mean, look, for me, I think Ira Josie said it best,

2:01.4

our U.S. chief rate strategist, he said, you know,

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