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Jeffrey Epstein's death has been ruled to suicide, but that hasn't ended all the speculation or the investigation against him.

Let's get on topic.

Welcome to On Topic, a weekly in-depth look at a topic that helps us understand the

week's news. My name is Renato Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a

CNN legal analyst. And I'm joined by my friend Patty Vasquez, the host of the Patty Vasquez show who joins us regularly on this

podcast.

Well, Patty, I have never seen so much speculation and so many theories about any case until this one and that's saying

something because you know we obviously from 9-11 to the JFK assassination

there is there's been speculation about various, you know, events

throughout our lifetimes.

Well I think that this also has the element of, and I don't know any other way to put it, except for Ick, because, you know, the extent to which he was enslaving these young girls or, you know, sexually assaulting them and other people who were involved in this

pedophile island there's so many elements to it that just I think compound

everything and raised it level and then on top of you have president Trump you

have former President Clinton,

you I mean that's part of what spins is out of control when it comes to speculation.

So before we get to all the you, sort of ideas and conspiracy thoughts.

In your career, have you ever had someone who either you were prosecuting or have defended

who has committed suicide. Yes.

Okay.

So I have had people I prosecuted commit suicide.

And then I've had clients, once I'm now in the other side who who talked about or threatened to commit

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