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Lost Debate

Epstein List, AI Scandals, Pandemic Lessons

Lost Debate

The Branch

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Dozens of previously sealed court documents related to Jeffrey Epstein have become public. Ravi and guest co-host Bethany McLean discuss what we know so far about the new revelations. What really happened with Sam Altman being ousted and then returning to OpenAI? It remains unclear what made the board decide to act. Our hosts tackle the secrecy around this and other recent tech scandals. Lastly, we explore the lessons, misunderstandings, and errors from the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, from the failure of authorities to recognize the inefficacy and long-term problems caused by school closures to the data concerning masks, vaccines, and more. Time Stamps: 0:01 - Epstein List 4:42 - AI Scandals 22:34 - Pandemic Lessons Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Subscribe to our feed on Spotify: http://bitly.ws/zC9K Subscribe to our Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Follow The Branch on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebranchmedia/ Follow The Branch on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebranchmedia Follow The Branch on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebranchmedia The Branch website: http://thebranchmedia.org/ Lost Debate is also available on the following platforms:  Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw  iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Politically Ecclectics.

0:03.2

I'm Ravi Gupta, and we are back for our first official episode of 2024.

0:10.0

And just before the holidays, we talked to Bethany McLean about our screwed up healthcare system.

0:16.0

It was such a popular episode that we have brought her back on to both talk about health care,

0:20.8

but also talk about the litany of scandals that we have brought her back on to both talk about health care, but also talk about

0:21.8

the litany of scandals that we had a chance to witness in 2023 and some of which are going to

0:27.4

carry over to 2024. Bethany, welcome back. Thanks for having me. It's a fun way to start

0:33.4

2024, I know. Same to you. 24. I mean, it feels, we're well beyond the back to the future future now and it feels so weird.

0:43.3

But one thing we can count on is just scandal.

0:46.3

And the last time that we talked, you're basically owning up to the fact that your, your

0:51.3

sort of tinfoil hat is getting a more ornate probably by the year.

0:55.8

And I can't move on without talking about Epstein.

0:59.6

There's all this fanfare about this list.

1:02.5

I'm not even sure what the list was.

1:04.3

It was released yesterday.

1:06.1

We have a lot of sort of conspiracy warm people in our audience, and they're not going to love, at least what

1:12.4

I have to say about this, which is, I don't think there was anything new I saw there.

1:16.0

Maybe David Copperfield, I just haven't been following him for a while, but is there anything

1:20.4

in there that you saw that was in any way interesting?

1:23.1

No, I didn't.

1:25.1

And I was really surprised by the play that this got because there really wasn't anything in there that we didn't know, even no new salacious details. But, you know, look, I think there are two separate issues. One is what actually happened to Jeffrey Epstein, and let's just all admit it, we're never going to know the answer to that. So you can have whatever conspiracy theory you like about that because it's probably never going to be proven wrong. But the other is the question of the other

1:48.5

men who were involved with Epstein's victims. And that was what I expected to see more disclosure

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