Hello, hello, everybody and welcome back to another episode of Fluently Forward with a favorite guest who is

returning Jenny from the Red Room podcast. Welcome back to the show. How are you doing? I'm God. Oh my God. I'm so excited to come back. And, you know,

it's very fitting, I think. It is. I mean, we've been collaborating together for years and you've always

been interested in conspiracy and

the mythical and, you know, true crime and everything to do with that. And even though I think some of

our first episodes were about billionaires and like their blind items. So I guess it kind of does

fit. But all throughout everything, we've just been talking about Jeffrey Epstein because, you know,

anyone who's in the conspiracy world has been interested in this. And the first question,

before we get into everything we're going to talk about today, like, is Epstein alive? Is Galane

Maxwell switched out of prison? Like, what are the code names? Just diving deeper into these files.

My first question for you is like, as a conspiracy theorist or a conspiracy realist, I'll call us,

what did you think when all of these files came out? Because like the main thing that I thought

with everything is just how naive and stupid of the little girl I was that I thought when

these files came out, like people would get arrested, people would be in the streets. And

instead it's just like a new format of memes on TikTok and everybody being like, you're in the Epstein files. Like, you know, it's crazy. I know. I think like that the thing is when it came out, I was really shocked first of all when it was actually like I was always so skeptical. I was like, we're never going to get shit. Like, because it's because it's just been so long like you know when you were talking about we've done loads of

episodes I found your podcast from Epstein oh yeah he he you're in the files girl he was like emailing me

like I was doing pop culture and then I would just also be talking about Epstein and I'm sure a

bunch of the pop culture girls were like okay okay, like, I guess I know about this

now, but like why? Yeah, like you're forcing them. But as you should. Yeah, because one of my, one of my audience members sent me your episode with, was it your sister-in-law or, and it was like about trafficking. It was really interesting. Like I thought it was so great. and that's when I message you to be like, oh my God, we should collab.

And I, why I'm saying that is is like it just feels so long because even years before that,

I remember hearing about Jeffrey Epstein actually from my ex-boyfriend.

And he was like telling me all this stuff.

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