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Epsiode 467 Promo - Weapons Sales Over Human Rights (w/ Annelle Sheline)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Last year Annelle Sheline resigned from Biden's State Department in protest of the administration's support for Israel's genocide in Gaza. She returns to Bad Faith podcast to provide new insight into how the State Department routinely deprioritized or flat out ignored reports about human rights abuses so that it would not have to contend with domestic laws prohibiting weapons sales to countries that failed to meet human rights standards. In her new piece for the Quincy Institute she breaks down the mythology around America's role as global peacekeeper, and exposes how weapons sales drive US foreign policy.

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0:00.0

I think Trump is aware of the fact that many Americans are sick and tired of endless wars in the Middle East,

0:11.4

certainly would not be interested in a war in Iran.

0:14.4

I did think it was interesting after the first Netanyahu Trump meeting when that was the first time Trump's voice this notion

0:22.6

of Trump Gaza and talking about it as this like great piece of real estate and that, you know,

0:27.3

you just have to remove all the Palestinians. And there was some question soon after of, well,

0:32.1

what do you mean like with U.S. troops? And the immediate reaction from Republican senators, including people like Lindsey Graham,

0:41.2

who's usually a total hawk, but just saying, no way, are we sending U.S. troops to occupy Gaza,

0:47.3

just recognizing the fact that Americans are really tired of these endless deployments to the

0:52.6

Middle East. My understanding is this understanding on

0:56.2

Trump's part informs why he's reaching out to Iran, despite, I'm sure, Netanyahu telling him,

1:02.7

no, you shouldn't have talks with Iran. You should just bomb Iran. You should be preparing a military

1:07.6

reaction. So my hope is that something positive comes out of the talks with Iranian officials

1:16.3

and that those are able to progress.

1:18.3

I wish that Trump was willing to use that kind of pressure on Israel when it came to Gaza

1:24.7

and the West Bank.

1:26.5

Dr. Sheila, it's hard not to come away with the conclusion listening to you.

1:31.9

You know, his domestic policy aside, and that's a big caveat,

1:35.5

that Trump's at least willingness to say maybe we're not going to do World War III with Iran

1:42.6

makes him a better foreign policy president

1:46.6

than Joe Biden. Whether you think that's true because of the affirmative unwillingness to go

1:53.4

as far as Netanyahu would like him to go, or because of the ways that he's like unwittingly

1:57.4

exposing that America was never acting in good faith to begin with.

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