Episode 97: Cardboard Juice — with Luther Ray Abel
The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast
National Review
5.0 • 1000 Ratings
🗓️ 8 December 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to episode |
| 0:19.8 | 97 of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast. I know. It's been a month or so, but all my travel is done now. |
| 0:30.8 | And I can enjoy the onset of the Christmas season, which, as we all know starts, the very moment that Thanksgiving is over |
| 0:39.6 | and know sooner. Today on the show, I have Luther Ray Abel, my serial killing friend, and we're |
| 0:49.4 | going to do a best slash worst episode. That is to say, we're going to raise a topic and then determine which |
| 0:59.0 | is the best and the worst in that particular category in these United States. Luther, |
| 1:07.0 | welcome back to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure to be here. Luther, you know, there are still |
| 1:13.2 | people who believe that I do your voice, even now. Of course. Well, I don't. Oh. All right. Let's start. Best, |
| 1:23.7 | worst American car. |
| 1:29.2 | All right. |
| 1:31.2 | So for this, I have Shelby. |
| 1:38.5 | So if we're talking brands, this might be a little bit of a cheat because what he really was was a skunk works for performance vehicles. |
| 1:42.8 | But he did start out outside of Ford and outside of Dodge. |
| 1:49.1 | And so he saw the framework of what the British racers were using. |
| 1:56.1 | And he loved everything about it except the power plant, the engine. |
| 2:00.3 | And he was like, well, what if we just |
| 2:01.7 | take this big old, reliable American V8, we marry it with this English chassis? That might be |
| 2:09.3 | pretty great. And it was. And so we found a lot of success, first domestically beating up on |
| 2:17.0 | the Corvette and then internationally beating up on the Corvette, and then internationally |
| 2:20.5 | beating up on Ferrari. And you've probably seen Ford versus Ferrari, but they had become |
| 2:26.3 | accustomed to winning everything. And so for this upstart American to take parts bin kind of stuff and to beat them at their game was just more |
| 2:38.5 | than they could handle. I need to give a shout out to Shelby for that. Okay, I'm going to, at the risk of |
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