Pushkin. Part of what I'm trying to do is put out complex visions of black people, not necessarily positive, but like complicated, you know, because I felt like

is important since the beginning of my career for us to be seen in media spaces as complicated individuals.

So that's part of asking difficult questions,

it's part of taking these rappers seriously.

You know, I think if you take them seriously seriously you will see that they are complicated individuals and it's easy to just look oh they're all little so they're all stupid or they're all whatever

That was Tori. I'm San Francisco so and this is talk easy.

Welcome to the show. Hey everyone. I don't think it's completely unfair to say that it's not a great time in the history

of journalism aside from the fake news onslaught. The idea and practice of being a journalist in 2018 is

incredibly difficult. The jobs are numbered and the amount of people who want

those jobs are higher than ever.

Aside from positions, rates and budgets and salaries have been slashed,

so much of the writing that you see on the internet is in fact farmed out to freelancers who are paid

about one-tenth what a salaried employee would make on any given piece.

That fact may not be entirely correct, but it's close enough.

I mention all this because our guest today, Torrey, has done a pretty incredible job staying afloat in this tumultuous field.

His work has appeared in Rolling Stone. staying afloat in this tumultuous field.

His work has appeared in Rolling Stone, the New Yorker,

Abedie, the New York Times, Playboy,

Washington Post, Vice.

He used to co-host this show on MS NBC. He is now just a freelance writer, a

podcaster, a father, a husband, a brother, a son, and a Brooklynite.

This is his bio on his website and he's also the host of the podcast, The Torres Show.

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