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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 95: The Unalloyed Case for Free Markets — with Dominic Pino

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

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5.01000 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

On episode 95, Charles takes his last chance to talk to Dominic Pino as a colleague before Dominic heads to the Washington Post. Among the topics they discuss are whether free markets are superior to the alternatives; whether tariffs are a good or a bad idea—and what the exceptions should be; whether industrial policy can work; what to do about America's massive national debt; whether it's a bad move to keep cutting taxes; and whether Dominic is optimistic about our economic future.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode of episode 95 of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

0:27.4

Jaguars win. No Simon and Garfunkel necessary. Monday night football against the Chiefs, 31 to 28.

0:44.4

First time the Jaguars have beaten the Chiefs since 2009. That's 16 years.

0:53.3

And on what was the sixth most watched Monday Night Football in two decades. And I was there. Which means it's not me. I've talked before about

0:58.6

my superstition. I've started to wonder, is it me? By drive all the way up to Buffalo.

1:05.6

Is that why they get blown out? Nope, not me. I have a clear conscience. This week's show is brought to you by the

1:14.7

Bully Pulpit podcast from the Center for Renewing America. The Bully Pulpit podcast features two

1:21.4

pastors, an ethics professor and a political operative discussing news and politics from a Christian

1:27.4

and conservative perspective.

1:29.6

In this energetic weekly program, thought leaders on faith and politics pull no punches,

1:35.8

providing clear and candid commentary on politics and culture from an unapologetically biblical

1:41.0

standpoint. But don't expect stuffy viewpoints or boring takes. It's four

1:46.3

close friends who take their Christian faith and conservative ideas seriously, but not each other.

1:52.7

On the Bolly Pulpit Pod, debate is welcome and friendly ribbing is inevitable. So check out the show

1:59.6

on Apple or Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.

2:03.8

And remember, if men were angels, no podcasts would be necessary.

2:17.2

My guest this week is Dominic Pino, who, well, I can't say anymore, is my colleague at National Review.

2:25.4

Or maybe I can just for today, but not for too much longer.

2:30.3

Dominic is heading to the Washington Post.

2:34.4

So before I ask him to tell us briefly what he'll be doing there, Dominic is heading to the Washington Post. So before I ask him to tell us briefly what he'll be doing there, Dominic, welcome to the Charles C.W. Cook podcast.

2:41.3

I got in just under the wire.

2:43.8

Yeah, it's a pleasure to be on.

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