Hey guys, Na'Or here. We're taking a little break this week and we're bringing you one of our favorite episodes from last year with Karen El Azari.

Karen is a hacker. She does research on cybersecurity and she's just a cool and awesome woman and we thought it'll be interesting to listen to her once again.

So here's the episode and see you guys next week.

When we hear about cyber attacks, systems getting hacked, and ransomware, we usually imagine a bunch of masked hoodlums in a dark basement, probably on the outskirts of Moscow, plotting

to bring anarchy upon the world.

What we seldom imagine, though, are a bunch of intelligent, successful computer scientists

in a luxurious office looking for security breaches, hacking into systems, and sometimes

even taking part in cyber warfare.

Karen Elazari was a geeky kid in the 90s when she discovered at a very young age

that her peculiar hobby actually had a name, hacking.

It wasn't long before she was participating in international hacking conventions,

serving in a secret military intelligence unit,

and finally receiving grants to conduct research in her field.

Keren El Azari was the first ever Israeli woman to lecture on TED.

She's an analyst and a cyber researcher at Tel Aviv University,

and her articles were published in many international magazines.

We're very excited to have her here today to talk about cybersecurity and hacking.

Before we get to the episode today, let me tell you about our friends over at the University of Hamburg,

who are holding the first international robotics camp for

high school girls. It's an amazing initiative. Let me ask you guys to imagine something. You have a

daughter or a student who's interested in science, in robotics, and engineering, and entrepreneurship,

and you have the chance to sit this girl in a room with some of the leading females in these

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