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Episode 892: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Two

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7855 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

My friend Greg Prince (writer, scientist, businessman, philanthropist—see bio at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Prince) joins us to talk about his book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church: Intended Actions, Unintended Consequences” released in 2019. In this episode, Greg talks the legal efforts of the Church to stop same-sex marriage starting in Hawaii (1990), Proposition 22 (2000) and Proposition 8 (2008) in California, and other efforts—and the “Unintended Consequences” along the way. Greg takes us behind the screens to understand the Church role in and arguments against same-sex marriage—arguments that end up not being empirically defendable. Stung and surprised by the backlash against the Church for its role in Proposition 8, Greg shares the stories of reconciliation between both groups—and how that led to the Church’s support for LGBTQ+ non-discrimination protections in Utah regarding housing and employment (SB296 in 2015). Greg talks about the Church support in 2023 for the Respect for Marriage Act—sending a General Authority Seventy for the signing of the bill at the White House. I believe it is important to understand the church’s efforts against same sex marriage—and its ultimate support 32 years later for the Respect for Marriage Act. It helps me understand the needless pain for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and their families largely driven by the culture and fearmongering of the day—and to also open our hearts and minds to future efforts to better support them. It also causes me to consider targeted groups today—like our LDS transgender friends—and not wanting to fall in the same pattern. Thank you Greg for being on the podcast and all your efforts to bring more understanding and support for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and their families. Links: Greg’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P7Q8QZB Church’s support for Respect for Marriage Act: https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders/2022/12/13/23508214/church-releases-statement-amended-u-s-respect-for-marriage-act-signing/

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:08.9

Just some housekeeping stuff.

0:10.9

This podcast started eight years ago in 2018, and I sent a tweet out to find someone to help me put these podcasts together.

0:20.0

And Tom Garbet, who was finishing up high school,

0:24.0

offered to help me. And Tom Garbet's been with me the whole time. He has moved on to a professional

0:31.2

career and lives on the East Coast. But he was in town this week and upgraded my equipment after eight years on the same equipment

0:39.9

with a new mic, a new soundboard.

0:42.7

And if it sounds different to you, that's because of Tom.

0:46.9

And he's also set us up to go on video.

0:49.8

So at some point, we're going to start video recording these podcasts and putting them on YouTube

0:55.3

as well as pulling all the old episodes onto YouTube.

0:59.0

So everything on Listen, Learn, and Love will be on YouTube because we're really committed to

1:04.6

continuing this podcast, and that's because we have great guests like Greg Prince.

1:10.5

Welcome to the podcast, Greg.

1:12.7

Thank you. It's very nice to be back.

1:15.9

This is episode two that Greg is recording.

1:18.7

He did episode one.

1:20.3

It was episode number 884,

1:25.0

and the title of that podcast is Gay Rights in the Mormon Church, Episode 1.

1:29.9

And Greg went through in his book, that's the name of his book that's written.

1:34.4

We'll put that in the show notes, I encourage you to read it.

1:37.4

He went through the history.

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